be so outraged about the loss of life, which is terrible, about ambassadors that are working over in benghazi, and yet they are very, very quiet on this. >> and keep in mind, john mccain hired sarah palin to be vice president who coined the phrase, don't retreat, reload. >> that pretty much says it all. alex wagner, jonathan alter, thank you. >>> breaking news in the fiscal cliff negotiations. president obama has a counteroffer. more after this. that was ups. that was ups. and who called ups? you did, bob. i just asked a question. it takes a long time to pack a bowling ball. the last guy pitched more ball packers. but you... you consulted ups. you found a better way. that's logistics. that's margin. find out what else ups knows. i'll do that. you're on a roll. that's funny. i wasn't being funny, bob. i know. >>> government jobs taking away all guns. but that's not what i'm saying. i would just think that the founding fathers could have foreseen automatic weapons coming down the pike. i doubt it. i don't think they were thinking about that when they wrote the second amendment. people change, t